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Disneybounding

Disney Animation Studios The Concert

August 17, 2023 · Discuss on the GT Forum

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#34: Join Ariel and Stefanie in a magical evening under the stars for Episode 34 of HPOE. Relive their enchanting experience at the Disney Animation Studios The Concert at the Hollywood Bowl, celebrating Disney’s 100th anniversary. From the melodies of the LA Philharmonic to the emotional resonance of Disney classics, immerse yourself in their journey through this musical extravaganza. This episode is a blend of nostalgia, joy, and insights into creating inclusive experiences for all Disney enthusiasts.

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Summary

HPOE34

  1. Introduction (0:10): Stefanie and Ariel introduce the episode, focusing on their experience at the Disney Animation Concert at the Hollywood Bowl for Disney’s 100th anniversary.
  2. Personal Experiences (2:07): The hosts share their personal stories from the concert, including the effects of the SAG-AFTRA strikes and making it a special girls’ night out.
  3. Disneybounding (3:07): Discussion about dressing up in Disney-themed outfits for the event.
  4. Concert Atmosphere (6:08): The hosts talk about the magical ambiance at the Hollywood Bowl, including the attendees’ Disney-themed attire.
  5. Transportation and Accessibility (7:02): Tips and experiences regarding transportation to the Hollywood Bowl, emphasizing convenience and accessibility.
  6. Picnic at the Bowl (8:06): Insights on the unique picnic experience at the concert venue.
  7. Concert Highlights (14:30): Impressions of the LA Philharmonic’s performance, featuring songs from Disney movies.
  8. Sensitivity and Inclusion (18:04): Reflections on the cultural sensitivity of the music presentation, avoiding problematic scenes.
  9. Emotional Moments (20:34): Discussion on the performances that were particularly moving and emotional.
  10. Community Engagement (24:10): Observations on audience behavior and the importance of inclusivity for all attendees.
  11. Accessibility and Accommodations (29:31): The significance of utilizing available accommodations for an enhanced experience.
  12. Managing Stimuli at Public Events (34:25): Insights into attending large events with children and managing various stimuli.
  13. Audience Behavior (39:13): Thoughts on concertgoers’ expectations and creating an inclusive environment.
  14. Educational Value (45:10): Stefanie’s perspective as an educator on the educational benefits of such events.
  15. Closing Thoughts (50:21): Final remarks on the concert experience and an invitation for audience interaction.
Transcription

Stefanie Bautista 0:10
Hello, everyone, welcome to the Happiest Pod On Earth. I’m Stef . I’m an educator who uses passions and fandoms to help my students grow and learn about themselves and the world around them.

Ariel Landrum 0:19
And I’m Ariel, I’m a licensed therapist who uses clients passions and fandoms to help them grow and heal from trauma and mental unwellness.

Stefanie Bautista 0:27
Here at happiest pod, we dissect Disney mediums with a critical lens. Why?

Ariel Landrum 0:31
Because we are more than just fans, we expect more from the mediums we consume. So what Disney experience are we dissect interface Stef?

Stefanie Bautista 0:39
So it’s definitely an experience and it’s a experience that’s kind of very specific. If you live in Los Angeles. I had the pleasure of actually being Ariel’s date to the Walt Disney Animation Concert at the Hollywood Bowl. It’s called Walt Disney Animation Studios, The Concert. I thought that this was just, you know, one off Disney event. But of course, why did I forget that it was Disney’s 100th anniversary. So they’ve been celebrating all year since last September or August. And of course, this is one of those promo events. Part of course, you know, they have concert series and everything like that, but this was very Disney 100-forward, which was great. Just to give you a little bit of background. The LA Philharmonic is the resident at the Hollywood Bowl for the summertime. They hold lots of different concerts, classical music concerts, pop music, concerts, reggae concert, hip hop concerts, but the LA Philharmonic they do, they’re scheduled there. And during the winter, they go to the Walt Disney Concert Hall. Even though they’re at the Walt Disney Concert Hall. They don’t specifically do Disney things. It just happens to be that way. But I thought that it was really interesting that we went to a Disney Concert, not at the Disney Hall, but at the Hollywood Bowl? You know? Fun times! It covered a wide range of just Disney animation movies. So we didn’t see any live action movies. We didn’t go into Star Wars. We didn’t go into Marvel. This was strictly old school animation. And a lot of people were really excited for that, right?

Ariel Landrum 2:07
Yes, yes, I was definitely excited. Originally, I had bought the tickets as a package deal with my partner and another couple as way to go on a couple of date, given the SAG-AFTRA strikes going on right now, my partner is not working because he works in transportation. And he’s a 399. So they aren’t striking, but they aren’t crossing any picket lines in solidarity. And he found a job and he had to take the job in order to you know, make any money.

Stefanie Bautista 2:37
Make a living.

Ariel Landrum 2:38
Make a living. And the job doesn’t again cross the picket line. But it did involve him going all the way to Texas and being gone for like a whole month. And as a result, I needed to find a new date. So of course, I asked Stef…

Stefanie Bautista 2:52
Thank you!

Ariel Landrum 2:52
And then her friend Liz, and her husband, Benji, he was like, “Well, if you know her partner isn’t going and you have a friend coming out of town. Her name’s Dawn, how about you make it a Girl’s Day?” So we all four of us went and saw Disney Animation and even dressed up?

Stefanie Bautista 3:07
Yes, we did. We all tried. Well, me I tried to Disneybound they had their wonderful Disneybound outfits planned out, because Ariel had bought these tickets months in advance. So Ariel if you want to go first because mine was very last minute.

Ariel Landrum 3:23
So I had bought a dress that had a purple scallop top, and a very green, light green bottom. So you know, Ariel The Mermaid, and long dress covered my feet. And halter tops so no straps. And the scalp shaped did look very much like the seashells and that’s that’s what I were. Yeah.

Stefanie Bautista 3:46
Yeah, it was beautiful. I love that. And it was such a steal. Right? You didn’t even spend a lot of money on it.

Ariel Landrum 3:52
No, it was like, you know, talk about fast fashion. It was about six or seven bucks. So I figured even if it’s not like that cute, maybe I could like put pins on it. Or I could put like a cardigan like maybe I could make it look better than $7 but it did not look like dollars.

Stefanie Bautista 4:07
Oh, not at all the quality was actually really good. And it was perfect Disneybound. The shade the hue all of it was perfect. She didn’t have to do anything. She just had to let her hair go. And boom. Ariel was Ariel. Yeah. And so Liz, she and her friend Dawn. They both dressed up. They both did Disneybounds as well. Liz reprised her Jasmine Disneybound which you were to Dapper Day I believe, right?

Ariel Landrum 4:32
Yes. And if you listen to our Dapper Day episode, and we described it in in great detail, it’s down to the point of the dyes that she used for her gloves. In this case she didn’t wear the gloves, but she did bring Abu along with her Genie backpack. Her Genie Loungefly backpack.

Stefanie Bautista 4:51
Yes, yes. And then Dawn, she was lucky enough that Liz put together a Disneybound for her and she was a Mulan with the pinks and the red and the blue colorblocking. And for me, I was sifting through my closet because I had nothing to wear. And I ended up wearing these black jogger kind of loose pants. My Doc Martin sandals and like a green olive green top and I was Ping. I ended up just tying my hair up in a bun. And I remember seeing somebody Disneybound as Ping and I was like, “I can absolutely do that.” And so we had a Mulan and we had a Ping, which was pretty cool.

Ariel Landrum 5:35
Yes. And in case you you’ve forgotten remember that Ping is Mulan alter ego in the Army.

Stefanie Bautista 5:42
Yes, her alter male ego. Was her alter male ego while Mulan was Mulan. And it all worked out. I think it was really fun seeing a lot of people Disneybound for the event. A lot of little kids dressing up in their Disney Princess and Prince outfits. I actually didn’t think that we were going to see that many but then even just getting onto the bus to get to the Hollywood Bowl we saw people Disneybounding and it was great..

Ariel Landrum 6:08
Or wearing at least beautiful dresses with Disney print. I saw a lot of that. Fantasia with Sorcerer Mickey being like a very common print I remember seeing. And then lots of as the evening went on and got darker flower crowns and like wands that lit up like…

Stefanie Bautista 6:27
Yeah.

Ariel Landrum 6:28
Little sparkly star wands.

Stefanie Bautista 6:30
I did see a lot of Disney ears, which was cool. I think at the Hollywood Bowl, it’s totally appropriate to wear something like that because it is a bowl it is looking down. So even if you wear ears, you’re not going to be blocking anybody’s view. So at the very least, people were wearing ears or even just things that they would wear to the parks. I feel.

Ariel Landrum 6:50
Yes, yes. I think I saw some people carrying their own popcorn buckets, like Disney popcorn buckets that they collect. So certainly a crowd of Disney aficionados.

Stefanie Bautista 7:02
Yeah, for sure. I mean, even on the bus right there. We just kind of felt like we were on the tram ride in ways. Just a bunch of Disney adults going to a concert. It definitely felt like right at home. For us, we there’s a couple of ways to get to the Hollywood Bowl. If you ever want to do anything like this, you could definitely drive there, when you park. Just kind of know that it’s stacked parking. So once you park in there, you can’t get out until the person behind you gets out. But because we live kind of close to the venue, we take a bus, we park and ride basically. And you can either park on the street or you can park to another parking lots, which is also stacked parking. And you can get to The Bowl that way through their bus or you can take public transportation, it drops in the middle of Hollywood and you have to take a little quick hike. So if you people want to experience hiking in LA, but also want to go to The Bowl, that’s your chance to do it. Won’t guarantee that you’ll look cute at at the top, but you’ll get there.

Ariel Landrum 8:06
We did We did take the bus and it dropped us up at the top, we got to also pack and bring our own food. With the Hollywood Bowl if it is a non leased event, which usually means if it’s not a big celebrity concert like like I think the Lumineers are coming to play at some point you can’t bring your own alcohol or food. And so with this event, you get to bring your own alcohol and food and so we packed a picnic for us four. We split it up. Stef and I brought the food and Liz and Dawn brought the drinks.

Stefanie Bautista 8:42
And also in planning to bring the food you can even you can either do what we did in that’s when we planned it, we packed it and we ate it at our seats. Or you can get there really early and basically do like a tailgate situation, which many many people do where you can drink your wine and have your beer and all your snacks and stuff outside of The Bowl before you go in. But we decided to just bring everything inside because we didn’t have time to be there all day.

Ariel Landrum 9:07
Well and there are restaurants nearby that you can actually order packaged meals that are called like Hollywood Bowl baskets. So if you have a sort of like favorite food bougie place, see if they if they have a meal pack that you can pick up that’s also an option as well.

Stefanie Bautista 9:24
Or if you just want to plan any of that you can buy it all there but you are going to be spending a lot of money because they overcharged everything there. So we had a couple of days to prepare for this. So I headed on over to our beloved Whole Foods to get some fruits, some cheeses, some charcuterie type things basically a charcuterie on wheels is what I was going for. So we had crackers we have different types of cheeses, grapes, blueberries, raspberries and the great thing about Whole Foods is that you can get all of these things already packaged for you and then you just have to put them in your cooler. Um, Ariel has a nifty little cooler and picnic basket that includes not paper plates, plastic plates, and silverware. And yeah, it’s just basically super convenient. Everything locks inside so I think you can get I did you get yours at Amazon?

Ariel Landrum 10:17
Yep, I got mine on Amazon.

Stefanie Bautista 10:19
Yeah. And yeah, basically we loved everything there because our friends were gonna bring the drinks. And we didn’t really pack too too crazy. I know some people do cooler backpacks. Some people bring like an actual cooler. But knowing that it is sort of a steep hill to go up there, you’ve got to be mindful of what you’re carrying. Because know that it will be on you until you sit down at your actual seat.

Ariel Landrum 10:44
Yep. And then I had packed some Pocky I had packed crackers to go with the cheese’s some dried fruit trail mix. And then we had a last minute contribution from your mom.

Stefanie Bautista 10:57
Yes, that’s right she made turon which is basically um, Filipino sweet lumpia. It doesn’t have any meaning. It’s saba, which is a type of banana. It’s a sweet banana that is rolled in sugar and then wrapped just like lumpia or egg rolls. And she made a ton of just coincidentally before we left, and so we grabbed like 20 of those suckers and put them in our bag.

Ariel Landrum 11:20
Ate some on the bus.

Stefanie Bautista 11:21
Ate some on the bus. Really great dessert or appetizer.

Ariel Landrum 11:27
And then Liz and Dawn, they brought was it red wine or white wine?

Stefanie Bautista 11:31
They brought red wine and also ginger ale, some sparkling water. And I think I’m I don’t even think we had regular water, I just drink the ginger ale because I was so thirsty. And me and Liz just destroyed that bottle of wine. So it was great.

Ariel Landrum 11:47
Having your own food there. You can eat it again before or even during the performance. During the performance it is very dark. And so if you cannot see your plate, that that could be a barrier. Also, if you’re eating when it’s light out, and you can see your food, people are still getting to their seats. So you’re often having to stop like what you’re eating to get up to let people get through. Because the seats are bleachers style where we were sitting at least.

Stefanie Bautista 12:15
Yeah, though the majority of those seats are bleachers style in the very back, it’s just green grass, and you just lay out a blanket, in the very front, if you are able to get tickets there, they have tables. And in the very, very front, they have like bigger tables. So you can get one of the box seats is what they call them. And you can split it with a group, I’ve done it many times, it does make a huge difference than putting everything on your lap, you feel very much privilege just having a table in front of you. But I mean, people have a lot of different ways that they enjoy their food at the Hollywood Bowl, if you ever want to do one of these events, but it’s non least events. Look it up on Google and a lot of people have tricks and tips that they use to have a great time themselves.

Ariel Landrum 13:01
Yes, people who go to the Hollywood Bowl, often I’ve learned are called Bowlers. I would say that it is a very affordable, fun, fancy date. So if you’re trying to find something to do with somebody you are wooing, I think going to these non lease events is a really good one, especially if you’ve packed your own food because you’re definitely saving money and doing that. And then if you get the bleacher seats or even the grass, you’re further away, yes, but live performances and music, being able to just enjoy each other’s company. Being outside. The those are things that I think are priceless. And these these tickets are within an affordable range, I would say.

Stefanie Bautista 13:44
Yeah. And I think they make it really accessible because the Hollywood Bowl is such a big venue. And I think in recent years, I want to say in the last like decade or so they’ve really been opening it up to more family friendly events and also kind of geeky inspired events. Before it used to just be the LA Phil which is great. The first couple times I ever went was to do assignments for college. And before that it was concerts that I would attend with my family. So I’ve seen like Earth Wind and Fire there. I’ve seen Chicago they’re like, you know, a lot of old school artists, but I think as more families are wanting to do these things together and it’s becoming more accessible for them. They have events just like this the Disney Animation concert.

Ariel Landrum 14:30
Yeah, yes. So the you have the La Phil the orchestra playing in front of you. You also have giant screens that are playing the animation that they are doing the music to. And then there were even singers there were Broadway singers that we’re singing the Disney Princess Songs, the villain songs, the songs that we sort of know and love. And one of them happened to also voice and sing a very specific character. And it was interesting to watch her sing the song and look at the animation that aligned to her voice. But she’s right there in front of me. But also, it’s the same person.

Stefanie Bautista 15:10
Isn’t it so magical? I think, the way they arranged many of these songs. So even though these Broadway artists aren’t the original ones, with that, with her as the exception, they did a wonderful job arranging these tracks and mixing them together so that they kind of held true to what they actually sound like. And I think it was very masterful that the way that they did it, just the whole program from start to finish. The conductor Thomas Wilkins, who was the conductor for the night, with was even really playful with the singers and they interacted a lot with each other. So I have the artists list in front of me, so I’m gonna kind of go down and list them: Adasa, who was in Encanto. She was one of the hosts along with Susan Egan, who we were talking about who played Meg in Hercules was also one of the hosts. James Monroe Iglehart. He was a special guests along with Adam J. Levy, Shoba Narayan, and Anneliese van der Pol, Cindy Winters, and the biggest guests were the students from the Orange County School of the Arts. I didn’t know that they played a huge role in this particular concert. And apparently a lot of alumni of Disney are also alumni of the Orange County School of Arts, but that also isn’t surprising seeing that Disneyland is an Orange County.

Ariel Landrum 16:29
Yes. And with the Orange County School of The Arts we had one of those songs they did was like a Peter Pan medley, and they had performers dancing, as if they were going getting ready to fly. And then they even did a Lion King performance. And it was “I Just Can’t Wait to be King” and orc, I mean, the choir, they were Simba. They were all singing Simba’s line versus having like one person be Simba and someone else be Zazu. They they were Simba and then one person Zazu. So you I thought that was really unique.

Stefanie Bautista 17:07
The soloist was Zazu. I was like, “Okay, a little b-side action like we never highlight Zazu.” But I mean, I think that’s wild. And they really took creative leaps in the arrangement of these songs. And I think it really paid off because it made these classic songs very fresh. And even though us as longtime Disney fans have heard these songs a million times, they were so dynamic in the way that they presented them.

Ariel Landrum 17:33
Yes and I they were also very mindful. So there was the “Everybody Wants to be a Cat,” by that the song in Aristocats. And there is a very racist scene with the Siamese cat playing the piano. And they didn’t include that. So they were very mindful of like updating what they were going to present so that we could honor like this legacy and enjoy this fun music without also having to be harmed by what then was a lot of stereotyping.

Stefanie Bautista 18:04
And I mean, that was part of the you know, the fact checking and all of this right, we wanted to make sure that Disney was aligned to how it’s been evolving in the years of late.

Ariel Landrum 18:13
One of the performances that really took me by surprise. Were the songs that were in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I don’t remember that movie or the songs apparently because I was blown away!

Stefanie Bautista 18:28
Yeah, I mean, they sang “God Help the Outcast,” which I didn’t even know was like in the Disney repertoire at all. All I know, is the one that he sings while he’s swinging across Notre Dame. And I don’t even know what that’s called. And I was like, I think we need to rewatch this. And I still haven’t, but I will get there. It’s one of the forgotten ones. But seeing seeing the animation on the big screen and the orchestra play. It was so moving, how beautiful it was, it was as if we were in Paris, looking, you know, at Notre Dame and looking at all the stained glass inside the church. And it was it was very, very beautiful. And I was like, “Okay, I think this is a moment where a lot of people can rediscover Disney movies.” Because we all know the ones, you know, that have been recently, you know, in vogue, which is Frozen. And I mean, we’re always thinking stuff from Aladdin and Little Mermaid but Hunchback of Notre Dame has not been in anybody’s mind for a very long time.

Ariel Landrum 19:29
Yes, yes. I think that was another another reason to go to events like this to be reminded and be reintroduced to things that you’d forgotten that that should have should take space in your mind. I think that it was it was so beautiful. There were plenty of moments where I don’t know about you, but I was just like tearing up.

Stefanie Bautista 19:54
I cried many times, I’m already in my feels all the time. All the time. Any single little thing will make me cry. And I was crying from beginning, middle, and end. So many tears, so many emotions. I did not bring my kids this time because of course, this was a girls night. So it was my time to kind of relax and unwind with girlfriends. And I think when moms get that little time to themselves, all the emotions just come out and I was like, “Oh my God, Muana’s signing, I’m gonna cry now.” And yeah, I started crying. And then the princess medley happened then I started crying even more. So unless it was like a comedic thing, or like a villain thing. I was probably crying.

Ariel Landrum 20:34
Well, the comedic thing. You were really surprised and the villains medley that…Oh, who is this?

Stefanie Bautista 20:44
Anneliese van der Pol?

Ariel Landrum 20:45
Yeah, so yes.

Stefanie Bautista 20:46
I know her from that. So Raven, because she was ravens best friend. And I had no idea she was such a talented singer. And so just like all around amazing in her delivery, her humor, and she did not hold back. I feel like some of the singers, you know, they have a little bit of finesse when they sing. And especially if they’re doing a Disney princess song. They’re very elegant and graceful and that. Oh, no. When she went into the villains medley she went all out. I think it was the part where she was singing Ursula’s parts?

Ariel Landrum 21:22
Yes, her “Poor Unfortunate Souls,” that she she had sas, she had like conviction. It was. And we were, you know, we weren’t that far back. But we certainly weren’t seeing facial expressions. And yet I could see it on her from the way that it was. The music was coming out.

Stefanie Bautista 21:44
Yeah, she cackled. She cackled the biggest cackle ever. And I was like, “Wow!” It reminds me of back in the day in Fantasmic, you used to see Ursula come across the water, that she was a big animatronic, and I haven’t seen like, like Ursula come to life like that since then. And I thought that that was so impressive. And, you know, kudos to her and her partner. I think that’s Adam J. Levy, who was the male counterpart in the villains, little medley that they did. They were such a great duo. They played really well with each other, their voices were beautiful together. And it was my favorite medley of the whole night because it was so so intense.

Ariel Landrum 22:24
It was it was just lovely. Funny. The, you know, like you felt the villain energy. I was great. Then they did play off of each other well. There were a lot of times where, and particularly I think during the essentially the princess medleys, I want to say, we would see the performers be very strategic and where they’re walking and very intricate. This seemed like there might have been some ad lib and some play. It was very, or they just did a really great job of making look look like it was ad lib in play because it was just very light and fun. They did they started with Cruella, and then they had Scar’s song, a “Be Prepared.” They had Ursula song. Was there another one? Or was that it?

Stefanie Bautista 23:13
I think that was it. Because they didn’t sing. Jafar was on there for a minute.

Ariel Landrum 23:20
Yeah, he was he was Yeah, because it was singing the the part where he’s like basically dogging on Aladdin.

Stefanie Bautista 23:28
They also sang. The mom song from Tangled. Mother… “Mother Knows Best.” That was the song she also went ham on that song. Because that one is like a very Joan Crawford like, “No wire hangers!” Like, that’s what I remember if being.

Ariel Landrum 23:44
I think for me, and what I sort of like walked away from the event was one like, like that sense of camaraderie and community just seeing other people expressing, like their Disney selves, not at the park, right. And I think there’s just something about, like experiencing live music with other people that is just so touching and moving. And it’s like a synergy that it’s hard to describe.

Stefanie Bautista 24:10
It’s cathartic. Absolutely, I mean, it’s music, live music, for me is something that I do when I just need to let go mentally, because you can get so immersed in just listening to music, and then there’s the visuals in front of you. And of course, the animation is so beautiful. You get taken back to when ever whatever age you were when you saw any of those movies, so a lot of emotions come back, but you’re enjoying it also in the company of other people who not only enjoy, but also might have even worked on the film because we’re in Los Angeles. And I really liked that it was their little nod to the actors and writers strike and they did it a couple of times, right?

Ariel Landrum 24:50
Yeah, they had everyone stand up if they’d ever been if they’d ever participated in the Disney animation process, whether they were writers whether they wrote music, whether whether they were voice actors, and, you know, we all clapped for them. And I don’t know if they would have done that had the strike not been going on because this, this is a live performance, it’s not part of SAG-WGA and orchestra that that music part, I don’t think they’re part of it either. So this wasn’t a struck event for the singers who were happen also be actors and Broadway actors. But this event specifically wasn’t asking for those talents. So they were able to participate. But I think they were showing solidarity without, you know, overtly saying.

Stefanie Bautista 25:36
Absolutely. And, I mean, the Disney studios are historically located in Burbank, I mean, Buena Vista Street is just down the street from where we are. And also the main animation building is right off of the freeway that you take to get to downtown. And maybe they would have done it, but maybe in a different way. And I think honoring those people at the event was really great. The people who are next to us they have somebody who works for Disney animation, which is really great. Um, her husband stood for because she was in the restroom. And I, we all clap them as if it he was, and he was “No, no, it’s not me.” That was great for him for admitting it. Kudos to you, sir. You will have a long and happy marriage.

Ariel Landrum 26:17
Yes, yes. He she did come from back from the restroom, we found out that the work that she did was translations in multiple languages for the animations. And that apparently that is a very difficult thing to do, which I’m not surprised what also hadn’t been something that I conceptualized.

Stefanie Bautista 26:35
Yeah. Super sidenote. I know, last time I was at the parks there. I think it was the firework show that they have recently. It’s them singing “Let It Go,” or is it “How far I’ll Go..?” In different languages. It’s like a medley that they do, like during the fireworks are doing the projections. And it’s always like them in like Japanese in Spanish. And I was like, “Oh, they’re really incorporating this into the regular shows, which is I think awesome, because a lot of people are introduced to Disney films in other languages such as Spanish when they re aired them on regular channels here.

Ariel Landrum 27:08
If you go on Disney plus, and you click on Mulan, the animated not the live action. And you put it in Chinese the person who voices Shang is Jackie Chan, also sings the song.

Stefanie Bautista 27:20
Wow. Because as you all know, Jackie Chan is a C-Pop artist. He sings a lot of songs in Chinese. I believe it’s Mandarin that he sings in, right?

Ariel Landrum 27:30
Yes. And it says the, it says Chinese in two different options. And then that’s written in English. And then it’s in characters, which I’m assuming are Mandarin. And then the other characters might be Cantonese. But it’s the first option. Yeah, and then the my other my other very interesting hack is if you go to Ant Man, the first movie, and you go into extras, you can actually pull up Ant Man with a sign language interpreter who is do who has is interpreting ASL on the screen in real time, so…

Stefanie Bautista 28:06
That’s cool. They haven’t done that for any other Marvel movies. Just Ant Man?

Ariel Landrum 28:10
Not that I have seen. And I don’t know why Ant Man was the one. But yeah there’s there’s an interpreter. There they are. They’re making the facial expressions or they’re moving really fast. I haven’t had a chance to watch the whole thing to see if they switch. So if you go to a live event with an interpreter, they usually have more than one because you start to get tired. You do have to switch back and forth and they give each other breaks. But because this is recorded, I’m assuming it’s the same interpreter and the whole time that they’re able to do they’ll do the whole movie.

Stefanie Bautista 28:44
Yeah, so you’re telling me I can listen, I can watch an ASL interpreter. Do Michael Pena’s whole like yes, story is like prediction of how the heist is gonna go. I need to see this becase that is one of my favorite monologues of all time.

Ariel Landrum 28:59
Yes, yes, it is. It is awesome. And you can still put the subtitles up and you can still have sound out and so but it’s a real treat the interpreters just in the in the bottom right corner, just torso up just doing interpreting.

Stefanie Bautista 29:14
I think that’s really great. I hope Disney does that for a lot of films moving forward. Because that’s really helpful for the ASL community to see that. And I think that’s in post something super easy to impose on the screen that you’re watching. And I hope that more people catch on to that because I think that’s really cool.

Ariel Landrum 29:31
Yeah, it’s always beautiful to see and experience work in your your native language and ASL is a language.

Stefanie Bautista 29:39
Yeah, absolutely. And speaking of, you know, accommodating people with you know where they are, Ariel and I use a different way to get into The Bowl that day. Because me I’ve been going for a long time but I’ve been going with with the masses in mass. So I am usually the one trekking and I’ve done this many times. From the subway station, all the way up to my seat at the top of the bowl. Yes, I burn a couple calories. Is my hair messed up? Is my makeup messed up? Yeah, probably. So this time because you know, we are being kind to ourselves lately, and it is our Girl’s Day and we knew we were going to take a lot of pictures. She had a really cool way of getting in there. Without having to do all of that.

Ariel Landrum 30:24
Yes. So as I’ve mentioned, a couple of podcast episodes, I’m allergic to my own sweat. And I can break out in a rash. And hives on a good day, I can start to hyperventilate, my throat close on a bad day. And so anytime I can avoid sweating, I try to, and the Hollywood Bowl does have an ADA line, they have accommodations. And so we got in the ADA line, you take the elevator up, you walk around the stairs, and then you can take another elevator up to the higher seats or just take a smaller stair. And that’s it. You’re basically in and about maybe 10 to 20 minutes?

Stefanie Bautista 31:06
I’d say 8. It took us like less than 10 minutes, we were in the tunnel. And we did get there fairly on time, I’d say on time and on time is like having a minute to sit down, prepare all your food, not have to do a bunch of restroom breaks, even though you could if you really wanted to. So we got there. I feel like that was like the perfect time to get there. Not right on time not late, not super, super early, like everybody…

Ariel Landrum 31:33
The performance was at eight. And I think we got there at 6:30. And we probably got to our seats around what 6:45?

Stefanie Bautista 31:41
6:45… Seven, I’d say seven. Yeah, so we had time to chill and watch everybody roll in, people were finishing up their picnics, or even starting them. And like the big line to get in was just forming. If you don’t know, there’s like a big entrance with all the security monitors and all that in the front like right when you get to the top. And then there’s another section where the ADA parking is at the top top of the hill, that will get you to the upper most seats. And that has less people. But because it’s kind of narrow, a long line tends to form and like once the cars are there, the people are there people are queuing up, you kind of don’t know where any of the lines are, unless you just happen to be there. So it can be a little confusing. And it may take you longer to get up there. If you don’t really know exactly where you’re going.

Ariel Landrum 32:33
Yeah, it can take you about, what 30 minutes to even really bad times an hour to try and get inside because they have to also check your bags. And if you’ve packed your own food, you’re opening up all those pockets. So there’s like a wait that you have to go through. It’s not just getting in line and showing your ticket. And when it comes to accommodations, like the first thing is to be aware that they exist. And the second thing is to decide to use them. And I find that with my clients, a lot of the times there’s some feelings of shame around needing accommodations that we always have to work through. And I realize likem |Am I practicing what I tell my clients? Am I using accommodations when they’re available? Or am I saying no, I don’t need that someone else probably needs that, but not me.” Because then I’m I’m you know, that’s ableist thinking. And I’m downplaying like me having a good time by just an accommodation, which is reasonable. Like that’s the whole point is it’s a reasonable accommodation.

Stefanie Bautista 33:32
Yes. And even if you’re bringing young kids, I’m not saying like infants or anything, of course, like you’re pretty much slinging them on your back at that point. But if you have little kids who all of a sudden don’t want to walk anymore, which happens with all little kids, I think it’s really good to know that there are elevators there are, you know, not just the escalators that you can use so that you are in them are also having a good time you’re setting them up for a successful evening. Because you know, sometimes when you bring kids to these things, it’s their first foray into going to a big event sitting down watching live music. They might get that in small doses in the classroom. But the classroom is such a controlled environment, when you bring them out to concerts. This is kind of setting themselves up to when they’re a little bit older and of school age, when they see assemblies or when they see even performances at their school. These are small things to help them with that. And if you’re doing your best to make sure you’re sane they will have a really good time too.

Ariel Landrum 34:25
Well and you’re managing a lot of stimulation points. It’s not just watching the performers, not just the music, it’s not just the screens, but it’s the person sitting next to you that chewing it’s like the heat outside or all of a sudden gets really cold or it’s all the twinkling lights that people are wearing. Like all of those are multiple stimuli. It can it can be overwhelming for a little one.

Stefanie Bautista 34:47
Yeah, definitely. And, you know, we had a couple of instances of you know, of course, being at the Hollywood Bowl, it’s a group setting, right? You’re sitting very close with people they’re all on a bench with you and You know, me and Ariel, we’re very friendly. Like we engage with the people around us offer them food. I’m the person at the Dodger game giving Portos to everybody if I have a box. And you know, some people accept that and some people don’t, which is totally okay, people are there to enjoy the way they want to. But also, you do have to take into consideration the type of event that you’re in. So we’ve noticed a couple of things that we thought were very peculiar, very interesting for a Disney concert that was outside because you know, us we’re coming from a theme park mentality as well, where everyone is welcome.

Ariel Landrum 35:38
So one of the first things that that I overheard that I at intermission I talked to Stef about was the mom who works for Disney, who had to leave to go to the bathroom because she had to take her daughter to the bathroom. Because her daughter was becoming overstimulated and very scared. She just sounded so scared. I think the the music might have been very loud. And it was just she didn’t know how to filter it. She was scared. At a certain point, they were trying to calm her down. And then the couple directly behind me basically, like, yelled at them to just take the, Take your kid away, right? Why don’t you take that kid away?” And so out of embarrassment, that’s what the mother did. And like, Stef… I know that for probably Stef, she probably she didn’t hear that. But for me, I was like, “Well, you’re the adult, why don’t you just like tune it out and learn, like literally learn to calm yourself.” And then I know that Stef is aware, like, “Oh my fusses I do take them away to leave, try and calm them down, and then come back.” There’s like a back and forth or like, get the wiggles out, right? But by the second half, she was really trying to enjoy yourself. And they were really trying to calm her down. And I’d informed Stef of like what these people were saying, saying and then continued to say into the next half. And it was like irritating the both of us because we’re like, you’re in a group setting. You are listening to Disney music. You are also the adults who can be able to like manage your emotions. The lack of compassion, you’re getting to like your fellows, it was shocking.

Stefanie Bautista 37:12
Yeah, I think that I was probably singing so loud, either in my head or out loud that I didn’t hear this. But also, I knew that it was happening around me. But because I’m a mother, myself, and my kids have wild out in many situations, I was being the adult and I was tuning it out. And just focusing on the performance. And they were directly next to me. The the kid was actually next to me at one point. And she was really trying her best to deal with the really low light, it was dark outside, there’s a lot of different sounds that’s happening, people are clapping, people are singing. And she may not be experiencing those things every single day in her normal life, which is normal. And I think she was around three years old, which is the same age as my son, and he is a busy body like he needs to be up he needs to get around. They had multiple family members try to soothe her, asking, you know, trying to engage her because she knew some of the characters, and it was working. And I think you know, they just needed time. But I mean, knowing what that mom has been through and probably was going through at that time. It says if time doesn’t really matter, and you need a very immediate response from your child. But that is not really a realistic expectation of them. Because developmentally, they are trying to learn and process these things, too. You’re bringing a toddler into a big event like this, which should be a safe space, because it is a group setting. It’s a Disney Concert. These are characters that they are familiar with and getting to be familiar with. And I think you know, the musicality of it also is engaging. So even if you’re not a child, you’re also singing in your head. And I had some friends who were on the other side of The Bowl that I talked to after the event, we realized that we were at the same event, we didn’t even say hi to each other. We couldn’t even see each other because there’s a million people there.

Ariel Landrum 39:06
Like that’s how big The Bowl is.

Stefanie Bautista 39:07
That’s how big The Bowl is…

Ariel Landrum 39:09
You know, other people, you know, we’re there until after you check the stories.

Stefanie Bautista 39:13
Yes, until the Instagram Stories. Yep. And they are, you know, our age and they were all going out as girlfriends too. And they were simply just singing along and they were getting shushed and I’m like, I can’t believe that. You know, I think this is something that is engaging for both adults, kids. The orchestra, the kids who are performing any sort of participation, I don’t think would have diminished their performance. Because the speakers are so loud, the visuals are so big, and I think participating probably would have just contributed to the musical and the magical atmosphere of the entire concert.

Ariel Landrum 39:56
Yes, and I think it should be noted that this is very Very different than going to like a play. Like if you saw Beauty and the Beast in the play and you’re there to see the Broadway actors and you don’t want to hear the person next to you there’s a different decorum and expectation of being quiet being present. Not engaging like on your phone, not chewing or eating food, versus the Hollywood Bowl, being outside expansive, the many moments of like camaraderie and communication, the the fact that you’re supposed to feel immersed in the experience. And so yeah, just just shocking, I think again, more more odd odd behavior, I would expect that if I was like, at, at a concert hall, I and I would, I would expect a specific level of like professionalism or your outdoor face however you want to say it. And I think can really, really damper they experience I, I’m I not being a parent, but felt so bad that this like mother had to leave. Not only because she was not enjoying it, but also she freakin works for the company. Here there was a moment to like, celebrate her and her work. And it’s like, oh, no, you don’t get to do that. Because you’ll have a child that I bet if every one of you just let her take care of the daughter right away there, she wouldn’t have been scared. But because of the energy people were giving towards that child. I’m sure the mom felt it. And of course, her daughter felt it right. Your kids, your kids know, when you’re scared and frustrated.

Stefanie Bautista 41:31
A high level of anxiety, mean all around. It’s kind of like, you know, being on a plane and your kid is just dealing with the turbulence. And don’t get us wrong. If this was a solely LA Philharmonic concert with them playing Dvorak and you know, a specific symphony. The decorum is obviously different. Like this is a classical performance. This is akin to being at the Walt Disney Concert Hall, where no phones are allowed. You’re not you know, able to speak to somebody unless it’s intermission. Those things still hold true. If you’re at the Hollywood Bowl for that specific thing. However, you’re at a Disney Concert. We are watching cartoons. It is interactive, they even encourage you to sing along. I think that was you know, did they miss that? I’m not sure. But…

Ariel Landrum 42:20
I don’t know. Because then they asked the audience to sing along for the big Elsa number myself. I don’t I don’t I don’t know. I don’t get it. I don’t understand.

Stefanie Bautista 42:31
Yeah, I mean, again, these are things to, to look out for, if you are at a group event such as this. I think managing expectations is what we’re always talking about. But you know, some things are out of your control. And I think the least we could do is understand them from our perspective. I mean, Ariel even offered her goldfish if she wanted some. And she took them and, you know, she was able to enjoy the Sorcerer’s Apprentice a little bit, I think. And you know, she she was able to calm down. I think she just needed time. And unfortunately, some people around we’re not willing to give them that time, even though they could have probably given it and it would have been for the betterment of everybody around us.

Ariel Landrum 43:14
Yes. And I think the other thing is, there’s always more than one way you can like resolve a problem. If it was really disrupting your experience. I know the ushers would have accommodated you a different seat like that, that would have been an option. Had you taken it like, “Hey, it’s just really taking us out of the the mood, you know, everyone else seems to be fine, but we’re not what are other seats that could be available?” I honestly do not think that the Hollywood Bowl would have been like, “No, you got to stay right there.”

Stefanie Bautista 43:45
Or if they did, they probably would have set the precedent of, hey, everybody is trying to enjoy it, especially the children. So I mean, even people, let’s say who were there might have been somebody who had Autism, or had an auditory processing thing, and they’re trying to enjoy it to it might not even have been a child and you know, we would have would gladly have accommodated them as well. So maybe the staff would have been like, you know, unfortunately, these are the realities of having a public event. And, you know, try your best to be an adult and deal with it.

Ariel Landrum 44:17
Yeah, it’s, you know, people be peopleing…

Stefanie Bautista 44:24
People be peopling. It is true, my friend. But, I mean, at the end of the day, it was such a beautiful performance. And it was so fun. It did not feel like as long as it probably was because we were so engaged. I think it was great that they just focused on the animation. So even though there wasn’t any Pixar there wasn’t any Marvel or Star Wars. It made you hone in on the basics of what makes Disney so enjoyable, which is, you know, storytelling, and, you know, the emotions that are evoked by those stories and you reintroducing things that we haven’t seen in a really long time, refresh, it made everything so fresh. And, you know, it was it was just nostalgic and great.

Ariel Landrum 45:10
Now, before we end, I’m curious for you, as a teacher, what? What does this event like make you think of? Or like, how, how would you find yourself using something like this in the classroom or outside?

Stefanie Bautista 45:23
I mean, I think just teaching a lesson or even introducing the different ways that we enjoy music. Not everybody has a music program. I know that was one of the first things that got cut, when all the budget cuts happened long, long ago. So even as just like a regular general classroom teacher, if you have a little bit of time to introduce music, this is a great way to do it. It’s not necessarily just soundtracks, these are sing along songs, these are things that you can challenge their comprehension, you can challenge their reading, they’re really the processing of their emotions, this could be a social emotional thing. There’s so many great aspects to using music and animation in your everyday lessons. And encouraging families to go to events like this, I think is a really good way to tie in community as well, I would have loved to seen, you know, people from the same school going to something like this, or you know, going to outdoor concerts doing, you know, fundraising and things like that for kids who might not have the opportunity to go to these concerts and maybe fundraise for them to experience something special that they might not have. And I know we have a lot of people in Los Angeles who have kids that not only attend public schools, but they also work for places like Disney Warner Brothers Universal. So really, you can tackle it from a lot of different ways from connecting community connecting arts and creative performances. And also we had children on stage.

Ariel Landrum 46:53
Yeah.

Stefanie Bautista 46:54
So if you have kids who love to sing, who want to pursue performing arts, not only take them to things like this, but also say, “Hey, if you want to do this one day, you have absolutely can, you can use this and make a career out of this because that is absolutely possible.” Diversity is always needed. They highlighted diversity in a really great way, I think in the choices and music selections. And I think kids have so much more to learn from attending events like this, if you know they’re able to. And, again, going back to what that little girl experience, she might have taken something different from that had the environment been different. So really, you could use this as like a teachable moment for you know, a young person who wants to be more connected to the things that they listened and enjoy.

Ariel Landrum 47:46
Yes, yes. And I think for me, so some of you may know that, and we learned this, I guess from Wreck-It Ralph 2, that Disney princesses have an “I Want” song where they essentially pour their heart out to like the thing that they dream of and wish for the most. And an intervention that I’ve done in session with clients is we have made our own “I Want” songs. And what they have done is they’ve just listed out all the things that they sort of like hope for. And then we put it in a Chat-GPT and ask Chat-GPT to make an “I Want” song, that’s that’s a “Disney Princess I Want song.” And I know like AI is is big hot button issue, and it’s taking over the world or whatever nonsense, but in that case, they aren’t really making a song. It’s really more of like a poem. And it’s using the words of the things that they want. But I’ve had a lot of clients who’ve, like put that on their mirrors like they’re their aspirational goals. And it’s been a way to just incorporate Disney in a very unique way that is tailored to the individual versus like, you know, “Oh, that reminds me of this character, their experience.” It’s like, “Oh, no, you get to be sort of like the princess and you get to sing your I want song and see it come to fruition.”

Stefanie Bautista 48:59
That’s kind of like an auditory vision board. I like. That’s super cool. I really really liked that. I like middle schoolers can do that. I think that’s really cool. Although we have you know, middle schoolers High School, even fifth graders, I think that’d be something that I’m going to suggest to my friends. But I mean, I think all together this was such an enjoyable event. I hope they do it again in the future. Maybe even just a specific Pixar one would be really cool to hear a lot of their music because their music is so different from I think the animation, but also a special in their own way. That is it. We we went pretty deep into this. And we had a lot of feelings but you know as Disney movies do, they evoked a lot of emotion from us.

Ariel Landrum 49:44
So if you went to this experience or some other live performance for Disney music, go ahead and Tweet at us @happiestpodGT or DM us on Instagram @happiestpodGT.

Stefanie Bautista 49:56
Wait.. do we call it tweets still?

Ariel Landrum 49:58
Oh, I’m sorry… uhhh…

Stefanie Bautista 50:02
Don’t be sorry. That is not your fault. I don’t like that whatsoever.

Ariel Landrum 50:08
Yeah, I’m uh, I’m still sticking with tweet, because no one has given up an alternative. Ah, and I do not like the X. I don’t, whatever. So yeah, Tweet at us.

Stefanie Bautista 50:21
Tweet at us. And also, Ariel did a really great write up on our website as well. And she included all of our fun pictures. We had a jolly old time we really tried. Even though we were all humid and frizzy at the end of the night, it was all good. We took her cute pictures and it was fine. So if you had a great experience, go ahead and message us. We had a lot of fun and hopefully we’ll see you at the next event.

Ariel Landrum 50:46
Yeah, bye!

Stefanie Bautista 50:48
Bye everyone!

Media/Characters Mentioned
  • Mulan
  • Fantasia
  • Sorcerer Mickey
  • Encanto
  • Hercules
  • Meg
  • Tangled
  • Mother Gothel
  • Ursula
  • Ariel
  • Jafar
  • Scar
  • Simba
  • Peter Pan
Topics/Themes Mentioned
  • Mental Wellness
  • Americans with Disabilities Act
  • Disney’s 100th Anniversary
  • Disneybounding
  • Hollywood Bowl Experience
  • Accessibility and Accommodations
  • Emotional Impact of Music
  • Audience Behavior and Expectations
  • Educational Value of Disney Events
  • Community Engagement
  • Cultural Sensitivity and Inclusion
  • Family-Friendly Entertainment

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Styling for Dapper Day

April 22, 2023 · Discuss on the GT Forum

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#32: Join cohosts Ariel and Stefanie on their journey for Dapper Day outfits. Immerse yourself in the world of Dapper Day at Disneyland as they explore everything from dressing tips and theme ideas to personal experiences and the pursuit of the perfect outfit pieces. Dive into discussions on vintage fashion, body acceptance, and privilege as they talk about stepping out in style.

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Summary

HPOE32
Summary

  • What is Dapper Day? 0:10
    • Dapper Day at Disneyland.
    • Step out in style.
    • Disneyland Dapper Day Expo

  • Dressing for Dapper Day 5:23
    • Disney Bounding is when they use color blocking.
    • Choosing a theme.
    • The value of being complimented on Dapper Day.
    • Different elements of a Dapper Day outfit.
    • Think good and hard about footwear.

  • Ariel and Stef’s Dapper Days of the Past 8:42
    • Ariel bought socks to wear with her heels due to the pain of walking all day.
    • Different park preparation from 20-year-old years to 30-year-old years.
    • Flamingo-themed dress, floral-themed dress, tiki-themed dress, and Moana-themed dress.
    • Tips for where to take pictures in the park.
    • A short girl solution to short girl problems.
    • The many theme ideas for Dapper Day.

  • Ideas for Dapper Day 14:46
    • The Disney Dress Shop in Downtown Disneyland.
    • The difference between making costumes and curating an outfit.
    • Flexibility and intentionality are needed when deciding to go vintage or retro.
    • Embracing culture.
    • Filipino formal wear of The Barong Tagalog, The Terno, and The Maria Clara.

  • On A Mission for Dapper Day Outfit Pieces 22:26
    • Searching Amazon for Dapper Day themed outfit ideas.
    • On a mission for the perfect pair of white boots.
    • Trying to attain that perfect look, even when it hurts.
  • Ariel Does a Star Wars Disneybound for Spring Dapper Day 2023 30:09
    • The fine line between replica and upgraded outfit.
    • Wait, are they getting married?
  • Dress To Your Comfort Level 34:58
    • Acknowledging the element of privilege in participating in Dapper Day.
Accepting the changes to your body.
    • Stepping out or staying in your comfort zone.
    • Attending the Expo instead of the Park to enjoy Dapper Day.
    • Catch Stef and Ariel at San Diego Comic-Con for three different panels.

Transcription

Ariel Landrum 0:10
Hello, everyone, welcome to the Happiest Pod on Earth. I’m Ariel. I’m a licensed therapist who uses my clients passions and fandoms to help them grow and heal from trauma.

Stefanie Bautista 0:20
And I’m Stef, I’m an educator who uses passions and fandoms to help my students grow and learn about themselves and the world around them.

Ariel Landrum 0:26
And Happiest Pod is where we dissect Disney mediums with a critical lens.

Stefanie Bautista 0:32
Why do we do this? Because we’re more than just fans, we expect more from the mediums that we consume, especially from Disney. So Ariel, what Disney experience are we discussing today?

Ariel Landrum 0:42
We’re gonna talk about Dapper Day.

Stefanie Bautista 0:47
It has been a minute since we’ve talked about anything. And right before we started recording this, I was 100% shocked that we haven’t talked about tougher day before, because it’s one of our annual traditions, I guess biannual because it happens twice a year, right? Yeah. And it’s one of the things that me and Ariel love doing at the parks. It’s one of the things that brought us together as best friends. And so I’m just like, “Why haven’t we talked about this befire?”

Ariel Landrum 1:14
Exactly! Stef, what is Dapper Day?

Stefanie Bautista 1:17
So Dapper Day. And this is open to interpretation, right? Everybody who’s listening, I know you guys have probably heard seen, or maybe even had friends who participated in Dapper Day, it’s a chance for everybody to come dressed at the park in their best outfits. So as you all know, Disneyland opened in 1955. And in 1955, the fashion was completely different. Everybody was in dresses, men wearing in suits. Even little kids didn’t wear athletic wear. They basically wore really cute things to the park, it was as if they were going out to a special event.

Ariel Landrum 1:51
And the park was more like a park, right? The rides were not as extreme as they are now.

Stefanie Bautista 1:58
It was more like going to a park that had amusement rides, much like a carousel at Griffith Park or pony ride or something like that. So basically, Dapper Day is a way for retro enthusiast, fashion enthusiast, and Disney fashion enthusiast to come together. It dressed up and their best in the park and basically takes a million pictures. Because you when you’re dressed up to the nines like that you’re not really wanting to you know, mess up your hair on Splash Mountain RIP. But you want to just show out and step out and I think the official theme is ‘Step Out in Style,’ right? So that is basically Dapper Day. It happens twice a year, once in the spring and once in the fall. And since then it’s expanded to different events either at museums or local gardens and they also now have Dapper Day at Epcot in Disney World and they also have it in Disneyland Paris as well.

Ariel Landrum 2:50
So started by the fans and now when we say if is it is it actually officially recognized by Disney or is it like unofficially officially because I remember when you introduced me to it this was back in like 2017 I believe it was like unofficially recognized by Disney in that Mickey would come out and like his like best dress and like his dapper wear on that day. So it was like a nod that they knew was Dapper Day, but it wasn’t featured on their website. It wasn’t acknowledged in the sense that it was an event sponsored, covered or approved by Disney.

Stefanie Bautista 3:23
Right. So here’s the thing. They hold the Dapper Day Expo, which is basically like they’re Dapper Day at Comic Con, have you, in the Disneyland Hotel and they have all these vendors and they sell dapper where they still have they get they do your hair, they sell shoes, all the things that you need to make up an outfit. They have performances, all that stuff, everything that’s like very retro. And they hold that at the Disneyland Hotel and they sell merchandise that says Disneyland Dapper Day or Disney Parks Dapper Day. When I visited Epcot last year. They even had a booth that was in Epcot right in front of I think where the America section was, and that booth had Dapper Day merchandise although we don’t see it on the parks and tickets. It’s not a ticketed event. So it’s not like it would be on the website as a ticketed event like Oogie Boogie Bash would be I feel like it’s recognized by the parks but I don’t think it’s owned by the parks if that makes sense.

Ariel Landrum 4:17
Okay.

Stefanie Bautista 4:18
Yeah, correct me if I’m wrong everyone but I thought these are just my observations.

Ariel Landrum 4:22
Yes. And I haven’t seen anything like on the website I feel like we follow enough Disney influencers that if it became like an officially recognized like announced thing by Disney, we would have seen it all over Instagram as like “Breaking news!”

Stefanie Bautista 4:39
And to be quite honest with you, I don’t feel like that’s necessary because it is such a casual, casual but you’re not looking casual event where people just come dressed to the park. It’s not like you have character meet and greets. You don’t have like special theme food like they’re not going to serve your hot dog from the 1950s. But they have been incorporating some of those elements into everyday Park life. For example, you find the retro popcorn bucket in different places at the park in California Adventure, they have performances by a swing band, and they have, you know, things that called back to that era, but not necessarily needing to section out the whole day in order to have the event because it is so casual.

Ariel Landrum 5:24
Yes. And when it comes to dapper, it’s really what you define as dapper. So some people will pick an era like the 1950s, or 1960s, or 1970s. Some people will do a Disneybound. I talked about this in episode before. But if you don’t remember Disneybounding is when you use colorblocking to denote that you are representing a Disney character without actually having a costume. And so we’ll see a lot of people were like very fancy dresses that are red and blue and wait and be there Snow White, and sometimes the theme is just whatever you want. So my first like Dapper Day that I did matching a partner was I was lemons. And that was that was the theme was I had this dress that I bought from Unique Vintage that I’d owned for like two and a half years that I never worn. So and it had lemons on it.

Stefanie Bautista 6:13
And it was a hit. It was a whole hit. How many compliments did you get? I couldn’t even remember, you got so many everybody loved lemons, and they loved just the way you and your partner coordinated. It was very cute and very summery. And I think it was the spring one. So it was very well put together. Bravo, bravo.

Ariel Landrum 6:34
Thank you. Thank you.

Stefanie Bautista 6:35
And another thing you always kind of know, and this is like a side note that you did a good job when people compliment you at the park.

Ariel Landrum 6:42
Yes.

Stefanie Bautista 6:43
It gives you a sense of like that you’re like, “Oh, yes, I did it.” If somebody recognize you as a character if you’re Disneybounding. Or if they say, “Oh my gosh, I love your hair or your shoes,” or whatever. People talk to each other at the parks all the time. But when they give specific compliments like that, I think that’s what’s special about Dapper Day is because you know you made an effort and for people recognizing that effort, it brings that sense of community to the event.

Ariel Landrum 7:04
Even with the Disney Bounding this Dapper Day, we met up with our friend who is a psychologist, Dr. Elizabeth Han and, and her husband, Benji Han, and they were Aladdin and Jasmine. And it was awesome, because all of the other crew that you would see in that movie. So we saw Jafar, we saw The Genie, they would run up to them and be like, “Can we take a picture with you?” And because they knew who you were, and you knew who they were.

Stefanie Bautista 7:32
Yeah. And shout out to Liz and Benji, they did such a great job on that Disneybound. Oh my gosh, perfect. And they look great throughout the day,

Ariel Landrum 7:40
Some people will just buy things and put things together. Some people will like go through their closet, Elizabeth, she dyed her gloves and like her scarf to match the specific color of Jasmine’s outfits. So go all out, go big. You know, keep it tiny, keep it close to your closet, whatever it is, ends up being just a lot of fun to step into Dapper Day.

Stefanie Bautista 8:01
Yeah, there’s different elements of putting your outfit together. And that is one of the parts of preparing for the parks that is a little bit different when it comes to Dapper Day. Of course, like as Ariel mentioned, it’s either you’re gonna go down the Disneybound route, or you’re just gonna go down the vintage route. Either one is fine. One of the lessons early on that both me and her found out was to really think good and hard about your footwear. Because if you’re planning to stay at the parks all day, if you don’t have the leisure of having a hotel nearby, you’re basically commuting over there and you’re gonna stay there the whole day until you feel like you’ve gotten the most out of your park day. But if you’re wearing heels, it will cut your day short as we have found out in the past, right?

Ariel Landrum 8:42
Yes, yes. I think this was the Dapper Day in 2018 maybe?

Stefanie Bautista 8:47
Yeah.

Ariel Landrum 8:48
Oh, no wait, maybe it was 2016. Maybe we started going in 2016, not 17?

Stefanie Bautista 8:52
It was the first one that you and I have done together because I have done one before with my husband. But…

Ariel Landrum 8:57
He was deployed!

Stefanie Bautista 8:57
Yeah, he was deployed at the time. So I picked a very simple dress. I think it just had flowers on I did my hair. But you had a beautiful green dress on.

Ariel Landrum 9:05
Yeah teal green. And it had little flowers around the waist and had a parasol.

Yes, yes. And you also I think there was elements of tulle? Tulle?

Yes, yes, there’s tulle on top and I even had like a tulle, tiny hat. But we took it off after a while because it was it was getting in the way. And then I wore these heeled shoes with like buttons on them. And three hours into the day my feet were hurting, but we were just we just kept going. We just kept going and then by the time it hit like actual dark because we got there at 10 I believe my feet were bleeding basically. And we had no band aids and we ended up going to the Disney store and I bought Ariel the mermaid socks because I happen to be similar color theme. And they were tall socks. And it looked like I was wearing stockings. So it was fine and that like really helped with my feet for the rest of the evening. But man, I don’t know who I thought I was I don’t ever wear heels like ever. So the fact that I thought I could flouts around for again Disneyland!

Stefanie Bautista 10:08
I think they were like Mary Janes. So the heel was maybe no more than two inches I think?

Ariel Landrum 10:14
Yeah, they were short.

Stefanie Bautista 10:15
However the terrain of Disneyland is still concrete. It’s like wood, it is stone. It is not pillows. So if you don’t have like an insole, or if you don’t have an extra pair of flats or like slippers or something, which now in our 30s, we have because we were in our 20s. And again, who did we think we were? Because I had shoes, and I stuck it out. I don’t know how I did that. And not only does the clover anything.

Ariel Landrum 10:49
You did really good.

Stefanie Bautista 10:50
I did. But I remember having blisters, like really bad blisters. And of course, this was 2016 or whatever. I was much lighter. I was probably a little bit more fit. So I could hold my strength a little longer, but…

Ariel Landrum 11:03
Pre pre kiddos.

Stefanie Bautista 11:04
Pre kiddos, all of that stuff. Now. Even if I have sneakers, my feet are dying. But yeah, like I think that’s one of the learning lessons. And even though we went through that experience, I think it made us want to improve the next time because the next time do you remember what your outfit was?

Ariel Landrum 11:24
I believe this next outfit was flamingos. My theme was flamingos. And I had flamingos all over my dress and a flamingo purse. Yes, yes. I don’t remember the shoes at all. But I don’t remember any pain that year. So they must not have been they must have been flats. I think this is I think from the room after that all of my shoes have been flats with the exception of this year.

Stefanie Bautista 11:46
I think I did flats too. That was the one where I did a tiki theme.

Yes. And I shoved you in a bush.

Yes, she shoved me in a bush. She actually likes doing it. You do show me the bush the first time also, but you shoved me in another bush this time.

Ariel Landrum 11:58
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Stefanie Bautista 11:59
And it’s always the same bush. It’s the one right outside the Tiki.

Ariel Landrum 12:02
Yes. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And this was before they expanded it with that outdoor eating area.

Stefanie Bautista 12:07
Yeah, yeah. So as we’re waiting for the Enchanted Tiki Room, which we always tend to do during Dapper Day. I don’t think we did that this past time. But yeah, like that bush is always like really good for pictures if you ever want to take really cool tropical pictures. That was a day that I think I wore flats too. And I think we came out on top that day.

Ariel Landrum 12:25
I even remember I had flip flops with me. So I remember because I can I can see in my mind’s eye now that they were these brown ones that I’ve gotten since rid of, but the dress was so long, you really couldn’t see my feet. It didn’t really matter what shoes I work.

Stefanie Bautista 12:38
You know what? That’s not Short Girl Problems. That’s Short Girl…

Ariel Landrum 12:42
Solutions!

Stefanie Bautista 12:43
Solutions! Exactly. Exactly.

Ariel Landrum 12:46
And your dress it was it was black. And it had floral theme, correct?

Stefanie Bautista 12:51
No, this one was actually the the other version of it. It was green and it had like tiki print on it. It was a skirt. And then I had a like cream colored blouse. And then we’re really big flower in my hair.

Ariel Landrum 13:04
You were you were Moana?

Stefanie Bautista 13:05
Not that year. That was a different year.

Ariel Landrum 13:08
That was another year?

Stefanie Bautista 13:09
That year AJ came back.

Ariel Landrum 13:10
Okay.

Stefanie Bautista 13:10
So my husband came back from deployment. And then we were Moana and Maui. But this one was just like a tiki theme. It was the one that had like these 50s sunglasses, and then you shoved me in another bush. I’ll show you a picture later. But we will also in attachment to this when we post about this episode, we will have pictures of all of our Dapper Days of past because we’ve had quite a collection now.

Ariel Landrum 13:31
And because it happens twice a year, that’s the other component is it’s like “Oh, was this spring or fall?”

Stefanie Bautista 13:39
As like, “Did I bring a jacket or did I not bring a jacket?” In spring, it gets pretty hot. Like I know we’ve had a very late winter this year. So it did get pretty cold like both in the morning and in the evening. But before it used to get really hot and so you’d be sweating, your hair would be melting. And you always just admire the ladies who just like have helmets on like they basically hairspray the crap out of your head. And it just stays perfect until like the end. I don’t know how they do that.

Ariel Landrum 14:10
I’ve seen the most elaborate hats. One specifically sticks out one year where somebody’s theme was they were the tiki room. And their hat was a headpiece that had one of the birds inside a cage. And I was just like, what, how do you do this and it all handmade. And this is around the time where you introduced me the actual Expo that they were having. And I started going there and you could buy pieces at the Expo. And a lot. It seems like a lot of people who are vendors or have relationship with the vendors, they tend to make more of their outfits. They aren’t piecing things together that they found they’re creating things.

Stefanie Bautista 14:46
When you’re thinking about putting your outfits together you are thinking like “Am I going to theme this?” If you are Disneybounding you’re going to theme it after movie. You can theme it after a ride you can theme it after the whole Disneyland park you can be with after California Adventure if you want and I think people who have been putting these outfits together have done such a great job. And with the help of social media Dapper Day, the hashtag of Dapper Day, if you just look it up, it has a million ideas. Now Disney has caught on with the idea of not just letting the fans find these pieces, but actually marketing and making these pieces. Hence the opening of the dress shop that you see in Downtown Disney. When you go inside the parks, you’re gonna see 50s 60s themed clothes, whole dresses that have different elements of them popping up. I remember the first time that they tried doing this was the tiki room.

Ariel Landrum 14:48
Yeah.

Stefanie Bautista 15:11
And like legit, everybody has this damn dress.

Ariel Landrum 15:38
Everyone was wearing this Tiki Room dress made by a Disney officially sold and made by Disney.

Stefanie Bautista 15:43
Great effort Disney in trying to relate. But when it becomes sort of a uniform, it kind of loses its pizzazz a little bit. So I feel like now they’ve like offered different like varieties of what they have at the dress shop. It is at a higher price point. I know if you like just go vintage shopping or if you you know do the extra work kind of like when you’re doing cosplay, right? There’s a difference between getting a costume that’s made for Halloween and using that for Comic Con or whatever, comic book convention. And there’s a difference between putting everything together curating it, finding those pieces and then kind of making it your own. So depends on whichever route you want to take. But there is flexibility but also know that Disney is trying to capitalize a little bit on it.

Ariel Landrum 16:26
Yes, yes. And then if you’re trying to instead replicate like an era and do something more vintage or even retro, that is a little bit trickier if you are buying replicated pieces because you already know the replicated and if you are trying to go actual vintage, there’s the expense portion but there’s also will it last?

Stefanie Bautista 16:48
Or really fit? women’s bodies now are so different from they were before when I used to have illegal vintage shopping I had to really consciously think about my body and how women’s bodies were thought of back then and how they fit into me now so it wasn’t like if I found a piece that was like a large it’s not like saying I was had gained weight or whatever because I normally wear a medium. It’s really because the idea and the concept of size was so different decades ago.

Ariel Landrum 17:15
I’ve noticed even with the size I’m top heavy, there’s just like not a lot of vintage outfits that I can buy that will fit me up where my chest is. So I tend to more buy vintage pieces like earrings, hats, bracelets, necklaces, glasses, things that are an accessory purses a lot a lot of purses. Unless something that I’m gonna wear that might wear out or that I might want to cherish later that might wear out.

Stefanie Bautista 17:43
I’m telling you Ariel one of these days we’re just going to buy those like Tiki momos and it’s gonna be like the most comfortable Dapper Day ever.

Ariel Landrum 17:50
Yeah!

Stefanie Bautista 17:51
They’re coming back into style and they are gorgeous.

Ariel Landrum 17:56
We could definitely buy some authentic ones. So…

Stefanie Bautista 17:58
Yeah. Oh yeah. I feel like…

Ariel Landrum 18:00
Filipino ones.

Stefanie Bautista 18:00
Yeah, for sure. And yeah, there’s that cultural element to it too. As…

Ariel Landrum 18:05
Yeah! Share your your cultural piece that was a huge hit the shocked you!

Stefanie Bautista 18:09
Oh my gosh, super shocked me so we so I am my heritage my I identify as Filipino American. And so in the Philippines there. Instead of wearing suits and dresses, we have two different kinds of outfits that you would wear to either a formal event or to a someone who’s a business event really just any kind of formal event. For the men’s it’s called the Barong Tagalog which is basically a bamboo woven blouse. And it’s very breathable, you normally wear just like a white shirt inside. And it is like a high collar you can even you can either have like Chinese style collar where the it doesn’t like come out on the sides or like a Western style collar that kind of comes out on the sides like you would normally see a dress shirt as. And it has very intricate patterns on it that are woven in. Very beautiful. We will show of course examples on this when we post about it, but my husband has one for every formal event that we go to. And then for women, you have a couple of different options, but they all are very similar to each other. One of them is called the terno, which is basically a blouse that has really big butterfly sleeves on the sides. Not puffy, kind of like Alice in Wonderland but more structured. So it’s very high, very flat on each side, but it has a low neck. And it also could either be a dress, which is called a Maria Clara, and there’s different versions of it. But lately over the years, people have been selling them more because people Filipino Americans and people who are you know getting married to Filipinos they are wanting to incorporate more cultural wear into their formal events. So I thought to myself, I might as well buy one because you know why? I have had like an event coming up my grandma’s 80th birthday. And so we all decided to wear our Filipino outfits. And I had bought a little bronc that I loved for my son at the time. And so we’re like, let’s just wear this a Dapper Day, because it’s coming up, I have major FOMO if I miss a day, every day, I’m like, “Oh my God, I wish I was there.”

Ariel Landrum 20:16
And you didn’t have a lot of time to get the pieces together. So this was part of like, looking at what you have, and just anything that might be missing versus starting from scratch.

Stefanie Bautista 20:24
Exactly. And it was a spring Dapper Day, so I knew it was gonna be hot. And we normally do the California Food and Wine Festival at California Adventure. So I knew it was gonna be walking around. And my shirt came with a just kind of like a silk wraparound skirt. And I was postpartum a little bit still. And I needed something that I could be comfortable in. So I wore that I think it were flats that year, too. And we went into the park, and oh my god, the amount of people are like, “Oh my God, we love your outfits. And we love your Barong Tagalog like, I can’t believe you have a small one for your son.” And even though it wasn’t like anything tied to Disney, or it wasn’t tied to, like an era, because this is something that you can modernly wear, like any sort of formal event either here in the Philippines, you caught the attention of Filipinos who worked at the park. Number one, they were like, “I don’t even think of that.” And also you caught the attention of other people who didn’t know what you were wearing, they asked questions about and they’re like, “Oh, you know, like, is this, like from your culture? Is this from a specific thing?” But really, like, I forgot how many Filipinos actually worked at the park? But that day I was holy reminded about, you know, the demographic of Garden Grove, Fountain Valley, and the surrounding areas of Anaheim. Because yes, there are a lot of us around here. I think the next year afterwards, I saw more people embracing their cultural heritage. For example, I saw this beautiful Vietnamese couple wearing the like a bright red, like just I don’t know the name of it. I’ll look it up in a little bit. But with the really large, beautiful hat, oh, my God, they look gorgeous. And so I think people are starting to lean towards their culture a little bit. And I’m glad that I kind of decided to do that. And it wasn’t even intentional. But I have been wearing that outfit again for more dapper days. And I think I would probably expand upon that maybe and try to Disneybound with it. So I encourage you guys to do that as well.

Ariel Landrum 22:26
And the most recent Dapper Day that we had the theme of was a Disneybound and it was going to be Star Wars and the only reason I did that was because Dapper Day has become more and more popular and you can follow the hashtags. I typed in Dapper Day in Amazon. I just typed that. And then there were all these individuals who were I guess you’d call them Amazon influencers? I’m not I’m not 100% sure, because they have their own little like influencer website on Amazon. But they all posted images of their outfits and what pieces they bought on Amazon to make those outfits and there was one that you can get in white or black. And I was trying to decide if it Star Wars do I want to be Princess Leia or do I want to be Vader? Like “What do I want to do with this?” This outfit had these long sleeves that emulated like a cape. And so that’s that’s why it could have been either or, and in talking with my partner who knew that he was going to be able to attend Dapper Day this year, we decided I’ll be Leia and he’ll be Han. Now I remember. I need to wear good footwear. But I also wanted something that might be like kinda fun and make the outfit edgy. And I was talking to Stef about it. And I was like, “I’ve been looking for white boots and for like three days straight.” I’m going to the mall looking for white boots because I thought you know, “Go go boots are back, I should be able to find them.” Could not find white boots. There were cream boots. There were boots that were white and black, but nothing that was just white boots.

Stefanie Bautista 23:50
And that set me on a mission, “Girl, I’m gonna find you these white boots.” And I think, um it was again a coincidence that I had seen this because I think me and my husband just got out of the theater ever had it been what we watched. We watched John Wick, which by the way, amazing movie and then we went downstairs and they had just opened up a Nordstrom Rack and I was like, “Oh yeah, Nordstrom Rack!” Like, I love me a Nordstrom Rack so I go inside. And then I think Ariel you had texted me like, “I still can’t find the boots!” And I was just like “Bitch I’mma find them!| Sorry, pardon my language, but I go in there and because everything is all new, they just had like, so much selection. So luckily, because Ariel is such a petite size. Not a lot of people get things in that size, which kind of works out because you are able to find really good quality things if you aren’t besides that normally more or regular people are I’m a size seven, seven and a half and my section is always sold out like it’s really irritating. So I go over there. And then I see the most perfect pair of white Doc Martens like they could not be more perfect for Princess Leia. They were edgy. They were not laced. So they were just pull ons and they were her size. I have a couple Doc Martens and the only caveat to having them is you got to break them in. So I’m like, “Okay, I’m gonna get these for you.” They were the perfect size like the heavens shown above me just opened up like pathway for her to do this Disneybound. And I’m like, “I’m gonna get them, but you kind of break them in some way somehow.”

Ariel Landrum 25:21
So we could never meet up to pick up these shoes from each other so I had to wear them day of. We met at the Dapper Day Expo the day before the official Dapper Day event. Dapper Day Expo is essentially three days and the actual Dapper Day at the park is Sunday. So when you’re going to dress up at the park, it’s Sunday, however, some people will dress up the whole weekend. So we met on Saturday at the Expo. Here I am being gifted these boots that I haven’t even tried them on. And so we’re in the middle of the floor of the Dapper Day Expo…

Stefanie Bautista 25:54
There’s litterally vendors going like around those. There’s link a beautiful like swing band, big band, everyone’s dancing…

Ariel Landrum 26:01
And so we’re sitting on the floor. And I cannot put these boots on for the life of me. And it took a lot of wiggling my feet around like these are my perfect size. I don’t understand maybe maybe I’m just a different size Doc Martens. Again, I’m on and they fit comfortably now that I’ve actually slipped my foot in, they fit comfortably.

Stefanie Bautista 26:20
Slip is a very like, general term, we kind of had to ganker in there to the point where I think one of the Dapper Day workers were like, “Do you want me to get you a chair?” She was so sweet. And then like me and your partner were just like trying to like hoist them into link your foot into there. It was quite a scene.

Ariel Landrum 26:38
It was. And then it was even worse of a scene to take them off. It got to the point where I was afraid we were gonna have to cut these off of my feet. I was pulling and tugging and twisting and another like vendor came by and they’re like, “Do you need some help? Do you want do you need…” Like the everyone was it was worried about me. They were they were concerned about these boots.

Stefanie Bautista 27:00
There were two categories of people one category that was concerned about your health and safety in these shoes. And the other was “Where did you get them? Did you buy them here?”

Ariel Landrum 27:10
Yes, I kept getting asked, I asked “Where did you get these boots,” as I’m trying to like take them off or put them on. The problem was I had just been at Disney all day. And I was wearing sandals I had no socks on and my feet were essentially a little bit more swollen from the fact that I’ve been walking around. So we went and looked around and bought socks. I put the socks on the boots fit beautifully. Once I had socks, I was like, “Okay, I’m gonna have to find a way to wear socks tomorrow with these boots.” I was gonna have hideaway socks is what I thought I was going to do. But even in trying to get them up my my leg I need tall socks, we bought some extra ones at the Dapper Day Exo to make it happen.

Stefanie Bautista 27:49
That were like probably a little bit more than I know you were comfortable with paying but at that point you were like, “Eff it,. I just need this to work!” Because we know the potential of what it was gonna look like and we knew it was going to be perfect. So in trying to attain that perfect look, we were willing to do anything. And like you know, buy, whatever it took for you to get into those boots. I don’t know why we thought it was a good idea for you to slip them on without socks. I always wear socks with mine.

Ariel Landrum 28:18
The excitement?

Stefanie Bautista 28:19
I think it was the excitement. I truly think you’re just so hype on these boots because A. found them B. I got them at a deal. Even when I wear them with dresses, I wear stockings, or I wear some sort of like leggings or something. So I don’t know why I thought that was gonna work without all of that. And especially after you were walking at the park all day.

Ariel Landrum 28:34
It was hilarious and humbling. The next day, I have the socks on I fold them a little bit. I wear the boots all day, I feel great, my feet, my legs, everything feels great. The boots are a little heavy. So that’s the only thing is I had to get used to the weight of them. But we were pretty much there till dark, I get home and I take the boots and socks off. And wow, I had so many cuts and blisters and bruises up and down my leg where different parts of the boot was pressing. And it was about two months before like all of those scabs had essentially fully healed. And so even though I didn’t repeat the wearing of the heels I still got very blistered up and that’s because these were brand new shoes. So lesson learned there I don’t know. Again I don’t know who I think I am but I thought that this was going to be possible I should have just come over in the middle of the night and had you leave the boots on the door and like me grab ’em.

It’s not like we live that far from me.

No, no.

Stefanie Bautista 28:37
I think if you wear them now they will be the most comfortable things ever you could dance or whatever have you in them and they will be true to you. So what I love about getting a piece like that for costume or a cosplay is you can wear it over and over again. So it’s not something that was just specific to your Princess Leia outfit you can wear them just as a fashion piece and I think if you are looking to maximize what you wear, because you know, you don’t want to just throw away an outfit. That’s one of those things where you find pieces that you can reuse over and over again.

Ariel Landrum 30:09
The outfit we got for my partner Han is basically you know, a vest and white shirt. I couldn’t find any pants with red stripes on them. So he just wore pants. And then he decided to tie a belt around that kind of was supposed to look like the holster and we were going back and forth on the different pieces he was starting to add to his outfit because it was getting more towards cosplay. That is the component of Dapper Day where there’s a fine line between you replicating an outfit and you trying to upgrade that outfit in dapper s stylish, fanciful, whatever you want to put it, where it’s a nod to that character. It isn’t an exact replica. And so I think it was a good thing that we didn’t end up finding pants with the red stripe or it would have started looking more like a costume. That being said, even though the we went to boot to and took a picture with literally the Millennium Falcon behind us, I don’t know how much more like evident it was. People saw me posing with my partner in a white dress and thought we had eloped. And so I consistently kept getting messages of “Married question mark?” “When did you get married Question mark?” “Such a beautiful wedding photo!”

Stefanie Bautista 31:23
This is news to me. I did not know this. I am dying.

Ariel Landrum 31:26
It was nonstop for like two or three days even from like his family where they’re like, “Oh, is this a wedding photo? Is this a sneak peek? Is this an engagement photo?”

Stefanie Bautista 31:38
I think it’s because it’s so on, brand for you to do something like that. And I think the universe just wants it for you?

Ariel Landrum 31:45
I guess. And like everyone saw a white dress with like a flowy cape.

Stefanie Bautista 31:52
They did not, “Oh, no Princess Leia at Dapper Day. She’s gotten married.”

Ariel Landrum 31:57
And a part of it was I saw this picture on Amazon if someone else who did a Dapper Day of Princess Leia where they were their hair down. And then they wore actual ears that they made with buns on them. So the buns were on the ears. And I was like, “Oh, that is so adorable. I’m gonna do that.”

Stefanie Bautista 32:13
Because really, it is hard to do just buns and you’ve done it before. And to make them last is like there’s a science to it.

Ariel Landrum 32:19
It was gonna fall I knew that it was going to fall. So I was like, I will do that. So I was even wearing Mickey ears. But I think what people saw was a bow and my hair down. And so if they didn’t understand that it was Dapper Day and that I was Disneybounding it had to mean that we had somehow eloped at Disneyland.

Stefanie Bautista 32:38
Which you know, that is okay. I subscribe to this.

Ariel Landrum 32:45
Add to cart.

Stefanie Bautista 32:47
Add to cart and hey if it ever happens, you already have a dress sis.

Ariel Landrum 32:51
Yo, I have watched those Disney weddings on the Disney+ that ish is expensive.

Stefanie Bautista 32:58
It is unattainable. That’s how you do it in times like this. And they just called eloping at Disneyland in the open without them knowing. We are talking about budgeting at Disneyland not just for Dapper Day outfits, but also for life events. So I think that’s really funny how people interpret just by what you were

Ariel Landrum 33:19
I was surprised I was genuinely truly surprised that that was the reaction. And maybe it was like because on Instagram you can put up the 10 photos. But the first one is usually what people see and people hadn’t swiped through and seen like all of us together hadn’t seen other people in they’re dapper.

Stefanie Bautista 33:35
And you looked gorgeous.

Ariel Landrum 33:36
Thank you. It was the boots the boots made it. I think when it comes to trying to find the appropriate outfit for you, you know whether you are going cultural, whether you’re picking a specific theme, whether you’re picking a specific character do this more often, you start to get used to how you want to conceptualize your outfit. I had taken a little bit of a risk with this outfit because it was shorter than I normally go I usually do a long dress and it was a little bit tighter than what I normally do. So I was wanting to step out into something different. And a part of it had to be again, that body piece that we talked about. I want my body’s changed a lot it’s gotten a lot bigger in various areas and I wanted to embrace that and not try and like hide it or shame it and it was fine. Like I don’t know what it was what worry I thought I would have in this dress. I didn’t think people think I was my marriage dress but it it really felt good to have people at the park recognize me as Leia people wanting to take pictures with me that were other Star Wars characters. There was a lot of Rays I saw and lots of Kylo Rens. Another way to be able to embrace the like the park experience and connect with your fellow Park attendees because people who don’t even know about Dapper Day they’re just like, “What is going on? Why is everybody’s like so dressed up and it’s fun to be able to like share that with them and hope that inspires them to join like the next year.

Stefanie Bautista 34:58
Yeah, and it’s not even an element of like, “Oh, I know about this and you don’t.” It’s more of like, “Hey, I will explain to you and I’m more than happy to share with you what this is, so that you can participate next time.” Because I think on the other side, there’s some people who, you know, aren’t a huge fan of the event just because it’s like, there’s an element of privilege because you knew about the event. And, you know, you were able to put this outfit together. But I think over the years, it hasn’t been like that, or, I remember in the early years, there was a little bit of that, but as its expanded to, you know, include Disneybounding, and including, you know, families and things like that. It’s an overall really positive experience for you know, dressing up without actually wearing a costume. I didn’t really have an outfit, but I had, you know, a dress that I was gonna wear for my baby shower that I didn’t. And it ended up having had like, really big, puffy sleeves, and I knew that that was in and it’s very, you know, Disneyland like, it was blue and I knew that my daughter had a really cute Alice outfit. Kids can get away with almost wearing the costume because you know, who’s gonna knock on a kid for like, dressing exactly like. It was an official Disney, you know, bought Alice in Wonderland outfit, so she wore that. And I wore my dress, which was a very similar blue, and I tried to kind of be like a bigger version of Alice, but because I didn’t have an apron, everyone thought it was Wendy. And I’m like, “Do you see Peter Pan around me anywhere?” Like, “I’m not Wendy me but okay.” But again, I wear that dress because it was comfortable. I felt confident in it. My body has changed after two kids. And so I just wanted to, I knew I was gonna be pushing a stroller around. It’s like it was to be carrying just the purse. My purse has expanded now to a large stroller with you know many intricate pieces. And, you know, knowing it was gonna be hot, I wanted something flowy. And yeah, it really worked out. I do love that you stepped out of your comfort zone, because I think the form fitting dress really complimented your curves. And also, yeah, I mean, it was great. It made me want to be like, “I should wear something like that.” And not something so large, because that’s kind of what, that’s what we default to most days. But it really worked out especially for your concept. So I encourage everybody, if it’s your first time, this is your second time, if you’ve had friends participate, like do what’s comfortable for you. And you know, I think don’t be so hard on yourself if you don’t find the right elements, because I don’t think this is an event that’s going to go away anytime soon. If anything, it’s going to just continue and grow because like I said, they have these Dapper Day events at LACMA. They have them at the Huntington Library in Pasadena. More and more events where it’s not just restricted to the vintage community, because this is going to be for another podcast, I’m sure but there are people who feel some sort of way about, you know, being in the vintage community. And that goes for, you know, other fandoms.They don’t feel necessarily as comfortable. And I think this is one of the ways that for me and Ariel as vintage enthusiast but not like really serious about it, to be able to participate in it in a way that’s comfortable for us.

Ariel Landrum 38:11
as inclusive for us as possible. Because like we mentioned, there’s no way that we would be able to fit any actual vintage outfits. Given our curvy size and even height. I think being shorter Filipino women as you start to do Dapper Day more, it is a lot more comfortable and more accepting and that you get more joy out of experimenting. That’s when you can take you know a few risks. Like I wasn’t gonna get snares. I wasn’t gonna get people looking at me sideways. The things that I feared that I would get when I thought that I wouldn’t make an outfit look, you know, right, so to speak. There is a layer of privilege if you are going into the park because you’re spending a lot of the day taking pictures. If you are making an outfit that isn’t going to last a ride, you might feel like you’ve wasted a day if you’re not an annual Park holder. So this could be a component where you go to The Expo. So maybe you’re not in the park but there are a lot of people who actually just spend their whole day in The Expo.

Stefanie Bautista 39:06
And I’ve done that before and it makes me feel like I’m participating without actually being in the park.

Ariel Landrum 39:11
Like you said they have a swing bands so you can dance. They have raffles you can get to know the vendors it means that you wouldn’t be buying a park ticket which may not be feasible but you could still participate in the event.

Stefanie Bautista 39:23
Over the years it’s grown so much where you know it’s a multi day event so you don’t necessarily have to go into the park to appreciate it. And then you can explore the hotel you can explore like the places to eat there. I know last time when we went we ate at Tangaroa terrace, which is right next to Trader Sam’s and it was it’s great like. You could also take beautiful pictures around the hotel floor that if you haven’t you know been able to the hotel grounds are open even though you are not a you know a guest to the hotel. I think that’s a really good way if you don’t have the capacity to get into the parks because we all know that the prices are going up. That’s a great way to just get introduced to it or attend one of the off site events. And you know, see how you like it there.

Ariel Landrum 40:06
So if you are going to be attending the fall Dapper Day that’s in November, let us know, tweet us or message us DM us on Instagram. And let us know if you’re gonna go, what you’re going to wear. And if you want to meet up and take some pictures together, our Twitter is @HappiestPodGT, and our Instagram is @HappiestPodGT.

Stefanie Bautista 40:30
And we do have a lot of really exciting things coming up this summer. So in addition to planning for our Dapper Day outfits, which I feel like that seems like a lifetime away right now, we will be attending other events. So I’ll be hopefully we will see you all there very soon.

Ariel Landrum 40:43
Including San Diego Comic-Con where we will be hosting three different panels. So come check those out. We will give you more information about that. So make sure that you follow us on Twitter and on Instagram.

Stefanie Bautista 40:55
As always, thank you so much for listening in and we will see you all next time.

Ariel Landrum 40:59
Bye!

Stefanie Bautista 40:59
Bye!

Media/Characters Mentioned
  • Princess Leia
  • Moana and Maui
  • Kylo Ren
  • Ray
  • Jasmine
  • Aladdin
  • Snow White
Topics/Themes Mentioned
  • Expectations
  • HAES (Healthy At Every Size)
  • Vintage
  • Retro
  • Fashion
  • Dapper Day
  • Disneybounding
  • Dapper Day Expo
  • Disneyland Hotel
  • Self Acceptance
  • Comfort Zone

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